Three Column Blogger: Three Column Minima (Layout Version)

Wednesday, September 3, 2008

Three Column Minima (Layout Version)

I started this blog because, like everyone who gets into blogging, I wanted to add a third column to my Minima template. Sadly, I also knew absolutely nothing about HTML, and nowhere could I find instructions that were all in one place and easy to understand. Three Column Blogger was then born. Update 1/2/10: Thank you all so much for your great comments, encouragement and suggestions. There are now over 300 comments, and Blogger has appended them - you'll need to click on the "more comments" link at the bottom of the page to post a comment or read new replies. I still read all of the comments, and I try to incorporate your suggestions into the main post. This has become a better resource for all as a result. As always, links are appreciated. Cheers!

These instructions are simple and easy, and you can do it if you don't know the first thing about HTML (which is perfect, because I don't). Minima is one of the simplest templates to modify, and it's also easy on the eyes, so both readers and bloggers like it.

This post is for adding a third column to Minima in "Layout Version". To check which version you're using, go into your dashboard and look just to the left of the "View Blog" link on the top left of the page. If the tab there says "Layout", you are using the Layout version of Minima and this post is for you. If it says "Template" there instead, then you are using the "Classic" Template version of Minima and those instructions are a bit different. But don't worry, I've posted instructions for three column Minima in Classic Template version here.

So let's get started! First, open up Blogger and go into your Dashboard, then click on the "Layout" tab. Then go into the "Edit HTML" tab. You will see a bunch of gobbledygook and gobbledygook it shall remain - you don't need to know anything about it. Just scroll down through the code until you see :

/* Header
-----------------------------------------------
(Note: you can also use your browser's control F (CTRL+F) command to search for this section. Just type in /* Header and then click the "next" button)

Now, change the width of the "header-wrapper" from 660 to 940;

#header-wrapper {
width:660px; <-------change to 940
margin:0 auto 10px;
>border:1px solid $bordercolor;
}

That piece of code should now look EXACTLY like this:

#header-wrapper {
width:940px;
margin:0 auto 10px;
border:1px solid $bordercolor;
}

Also, at the bottom of the same Header section, change the max-width from 660 to 940:

#description {
margin:0 5px 5px;
padding:0 20px 20px;
border:1px solid #eee;
border-width:0 1px 1px;
max-width:660px;<-------change to 940
font:78%/1.4em "Trebuchet MS",Trebuchet,Arial,Verdana,Sans-serif;
text-transform:uppercase;
letter-spacing:.2em;
color:#999;
}

That piece of code should now look like this:

#description {
margin:0 5px 5px;
padding:0 20px 20px;
border:1px solid #eee;
border-width:0 1px 1px;
max-width:940px;
font:78%/1.4em "Trebuchet MS",Trebuchet,Arial,Verdana,Sans-serif;
text-transform:uppercase;
letter-spacing:.2em;
color:#999;
}


So far so good. Next, scroll down (or use CTRL+F) to where it says:

/* Outer-Wrapper
----------------------------------------------- */

Now, just like you did in the Header above, change the "outer-wrapper" width from 660 to 940, and (2) change the "main-wrapper" width from 410 to 500

#outer-wrapper {
width: 660px; <-------change to 940
margin:0 auto; padding:10px;
text-align:$startSide;
font: $bodyfont;
}

#main-wrapper {
width: 410px; <-------change to 500
float: $startSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */ overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

Next, take this new block of code (in red) and paste it in exactly as it appears directly in between the "outer-wrapper" code and "main-wrapper" code. It's helpful to use "CTRL C" to copy, and then "CTRL V" to paste, if you didn't already know that trick. Regardless of how you do it, you must paste it in between these two code blocks, nowhere else. Update: the Google Gremlins may let some of you get away with using "left" instead of "$startSide" and "right" instead of "$endSide".


#left-sidebar-wrapper {
width: 220px;
float: $startSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}


The new code block should look exactly like this:


#outer-wrapper {
width: 940px;
margin:0 auto;
padding:10px;
text-align:$startSide;
font: $bodyfont;
}

#left-sidebar-wrapper {
width: 220px;
float: $startSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

#main-wrapper {
width: 500px;
float: $startSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

#sidebar-wrapper {
width: 220px;
float: $endSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}



Then scroll way down the page to the footer section (or use CTRL F), it looks like this:

/* Footer
----------------------------------------------- */

Change the width of the "footer" from 660 to 940.

#footer {
width:660px; <-------change to 940
clear:both;
margin:0 auto; 10px
padding-top:15px;
line-height: 1.6em;
text-transform:uppercase;
letter-spacing:.1em;
text-align: center;
}

At this point, believe it or not, there are only two more steps. This particular step is hard only because you need to make sure you paste the additional code in the right spot, and this next spot can be a hard place to identify (CTRL+F helps here a lot).

Anyway, in the same footer section that you're now in, scroll down until you see:


<div id='content-wrapper'>


Then, locate the the "main wrapper" id a few lines below it. It looks like this:


<div id='main-wrapper'>


Now, just above the "main wrapper" id, paste in the following code EXACTLY as it appears below:


<div id='left-sidebar-wrapper'>
<b:section class='sidebar' id='left-sidebar' preferred='yes'>
<b:widget id='BloggerButton1' locked='false' title='' type='BloggerButton'/>
</b:section>
</div>


Note: this will also temporarily insert the Blogger logo button into your new sidebar, but you can delete that and add the widget of your own choice after you finish adding the column. Update: If you get an error message that says the widget ID should be unique, you have an existing blogger button already loaded in your original sidebar and you'll have to delete that one temporarily. But don't worry, you can customize all of your sidebars when you get them all set up. If not, there's no need to worry about it - the button is just a placeholder and you can replace and rearrange all of your widgets when you finish.

So, after you do that, the newly modified section should now look like this:


<div id='content-wrapper'>

<div id='crosscol-wrapper' style='text-align:center'>
<b:section class='crosscol' id='crosscol' showaddelement='no'/>
</div>

<div id='left-sidebar-wrapper'>
<b:section class='sidebar' id='left-sidebar' preferred='yes'>
<b:widget id='Gadget1' locked='false' title='Geo IP Tool' type='Gadget'/>
</b:section>
</div>


<div id='main-wrapper'>



And you are a now master Minima coder, because you're done! Hit preview to see your new three column Minima layout, and then save the template. Now you can go into the "Layouts" and add a new google gadget of your choice. You can also read this article for instructions on how to adjust your margins to make more space in between your columns.

If you have any trouble with your "nav bar" or would simply like to turn it off, insert the following code (in red) exactly where I have placed it:



Blogger Template Style
Name: Minima
Designer: Douglas Bowman
URL: www.stopdesign.com
Date: 26 Feb 2004
Updated by: Blogger Team
----------------------------------------------

#navbar-iframe {
display: none !important;
}


Best of luck with your blogging. If this post was helpful, I would really appreciate a link. If you would like to create a link in one of your posts or on your blogroll but are unsure how to do it, just insert this html string in your post text:

</a href="http://www.threecolumnblogger.com/">Three Column Blogger</a>


It will appear in your post text/blogroll as Three Column Blogger

Thanks!!

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Blogger heatherlady said...

Thank you thank you thank you! I've been trying forever to understand how to do this and I REALLY appreciate your easy instructions! Thank you for helping the html challenged!

September 11, 2008 8:13 PM  
Blogger Sarah said...

thank you! very helpful and easy to use!

September 14, 2008 9:13 AM  
Blogger REIT Wrecks said...

GREAT! I'm glad it was helpful. Your comments are very rewarding.

September 16, 2008 1:03 PM  
Blogger jessica said...

thanks. this was SO MUCH easier then the other version i found to do this!

September 16, 2008 2:56 PM  
Blogger Le'Penn Designs said...

You made this so easy and I thank you SSSOOOO MUCH...I got so frustrated that I couldn't find out how to do it. You saved the day!! :o)

September 17, 2008 7:36 PM  
Blogger Amy said...

So cool! Thanks for posting - I wish everything came with such great instructions! Thanks again for saving the few brain cells I have left!

September 18, 2008 10:31 AM  
Blogger about me said...

Thanks so much for a great tutorial. I had tried several other versions with no luck, but this was a great success.

September 20, 2008 9:59 PM  
Blogger Worthington said...

thank you!!!

September 24, 2008 6:57 AM  
Blogger [LV Reviews] said...

Thanks for making it so easy! :)

September 25, 2008 10:02 AM  
Blogger shewrites2live said...

I can not thank you enough! I tried like 10 other sites and nearly pulled all my hair out. This works great and looks great. I will be putting a link to this in my blog. Thanks again!

September 26, 2008 6:47 PM  
Blogger a_weak_rose said...

ONE month after trying different "instructions on the net" and I finally got it! You're awesome!

September 27, 2008 1:13 PM  
Blogger My2Gs said...

When I go into my layout page my right column start really low on the page but looks okay on my blog. Any thoughts or ideas why?

September 27, 2008 2:21 PM  
Blogger RW said...

First, thanks to everyone for your comments; I really appreciate them.

My2gs: I looked at your blog - you've got a ton of pre-existing customizations in there which may be part of the problem, but from what I could see, you probably have widgets in your sidebars that exceed 185 pixels in width. Try increasing your left and right sidebar widths to 200 pixels (you'll need to reduce your main column to 470 pixels when you do this).

I think this will fix it, but if not, CTRL F to /head> and insert the following code just before /head>:

/** Page structure tweaks for layout editor wireframe */body#layout #outer-wrapper { padding-top: 0; width:940px;}body#layout #header-wrapper,body#layout #content-wrapper,body#layout #footer { padding: 0; width:940px;}body#layout #main-wrapper { width:470px;}body#layout #sidebar-wrapper,body#layout #left-sidebar-wrapper { width:200px;}

Note: this code is set up for 200 pixel sidebars and a 470 pixel width main.

September 27, 2008 7:51 PM  
Blogger Julie said...

Thankyou, how easy. I love it.

September 29, 2008 10:23 PM  
Blogger Scary Mommy said...

Wow-- you are A.W.E.S.O.M.E!!! Thanks!

September 30, 2008 6:15 PM  
Blogger Jo in Tas said...

Excellent Tutorial!

September 30, 2008 6:19 PM  
Blogger This is who I am. said...

Help! I think I screwed it up. I have three columns (yippee!) but I have two columns to the left of my main when what I wanted was one to the left and one to right. Where did I go wrong? :(

October 1, 2008 12:17 PM  
Blogger The Mom said...

OMG so glad to have found this tutorial...I made it to the end, and am so excited...except I have one problem.

I got this message "Please correct the error below, and submit your template again.
More than one widget was found with id: Subscribe1. Widget IDs should be unique."

What do I do? Please help...I've been trying to get a 3rd column for months now.

My blog is http://sexdiariesofamom.blogspot.com

Thanks!!! I'll be back to check in on your blog.

October 1, 2008 8:41 PM  
Blogger Di said...

Thanks so much, I've been trying to do this for ages with no success until now!

October 1, 2008 8:52 PM  
Blogger The Mom said...

I figured it out! Since I already had a subscription widget, it was interferring with the one in the code that I added. I removed mine, and it's now all good. WOOOHOOO!!! Thank you, your instructions are the BEST instructions on how to get a 3rd column that I've been able to find!!! Great job!

October 2, 2008 9:50 AM  
Blogger RW said...

Mom, I thought you were just flirting with me...damn! But I'm glad you found the problem and thanks for your great comments.

This is who I am: You didn't screw it up, you just have a Minima Lefty template and the instructions for that template are ever so slightly different, but EASY for you to fix (I plan to post specific Minima Lefty instructions shortly).

Just switch your "#main-wrapper" float setting from "right" to "left", and switch your "#sidebar-wrapper" float from left to right. Leave your "left sidebar wrapper" the way it is, and hit preview. If it's all good (it will be) hit save, republish, check the post on setting margins, and you will be all set!

October 2, 2008 10:36 AM  
Blogger who I am. said...

Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. I am a bit like a two-year old and accordingly, I am confused but certain I can get this right. I don't see the words "left" or "right" in the wrapper code. This is what I see:

/* Outer-Wrapper
----------------------------------------------- */
#outer-wrapper {
width: 940px;
margin:0 auto;
padding:10px;
text-align:$startSide;
font: $bodyfont;
}

#left-sidebar-wrapper {
width: 220px;
float: $startSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

#main-wrapper {
width: 500px;
float: $endSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

#sidebar-wrapper {
width: 220px;
float: $startSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

Am I just looking in the wrong place? I should let you know that I've never even seen code before so please don't think I'm a complete moron. :)

October 2, 2008 10:55 AM  
Blogger k.a.t.calvin said...

thank you thank you thank you thank you!!! you're the first person who actually explained this so i can understand it!!!! thank you!!

October 3, 2008 10:55 AM  
Blogger RW said...

Thanks c.a.t.calvin!

Who I am - I'm glad you pasted the code; I saw "left" and "right" when I looked at your code in IE. Your problem is still EASY to fix though: just switch your "#main-wrapper" float from "$endSide" to $startSide, and switch your "#sidebar-wrapper" float from "$startSide" to $endSide, and yes those are dollar signs ($) in the code. That should do it! Do check out your column widths and margins when you're finished, your blog may look a little cramped when you get it fixed. Sorry for the misinformation earlier, and I hope you have fun with your blog!

October 3, 2008 2:55 PM  
Blogger who I am. said...

Thanks so much, that works! Last question. I promise. I'm leaving it as is for the moment but once I change the code for real, for real, how do I adjust the space between the columns and is it possible to make the whole thing wider? OK, I realize that was officially two questions.

October 3, 2008 3:12 PM  
Blogger RW said...

Great, I'm glad it worked. As for increasing the width of the whole thing, first, adjust your margins with these instructions, and that will take care of adjusting the space between the columns. That space between the columns is what I am referring to when I say "margins".

Then, if you want more space overall, just increase the width of the outer wrapper and the footer wrapper to (for example) 1040. Now you have an extra 100 pixels (940+100=1040) available to increase the width of your columns and margins. The important thing is that the width of your three columns and the margins collectively cannot exceed 1040. If they do, the right hand column will drop to the bottom of the page. If that happens, you have a pixel "overdraft" and have spent more pixels than you have on deposit!

You can use whatever number you want, 1040, 1000, 1074 etc., as long as everything adds up. Don't go above 1074, because you'll exceed the resolution on many older computer screens. Those users will get an annoying horizontal scroll bar at the bottom of their browser window and will have to scroll left and right (as well as down) to read everything. They may then cease to care "who you are" and exit. Have fun!

October 4, 2008 11:16 AM  
Blogger Styles by Anessa said...

OMG! You are the best. This works well. Your step by step was exact and very detailed. I have been to so many blog templates guide and they all come out wrong.

Well Done!

October 6, 2008 4:16 PM  
Blogger Barb said...

I am SO excited!!! I DID it... thanks to your wonderful step by step guide.

I had looked at several others but this was the most succint.

Thanks SO much. I gave you a shout out in my Work in Progress blog!!

October 11, 2008 4:14 PM  
Blogger Evan The Gamer said...

Thank you very much! I was almost going to download a three column Minima Dark template, but was kind of wary of doing that, since I'd lose all my Page Elements, although I could have just backed up all the java/html based ones, but that's besides the point and I would have gone out of my way in doing so.

This guide definitely came in handy and it was extremely easy to use!

Perhaps maybe you could write guides on all the different default Blogger templates? That'd be cool. I know a friend wants to add a third column for the "Rounders 3" blogger template.

Keep up the great work!

Thanks again!

October 12, 2008 6:37 PM  
Blogger Evan The Gamer said...

Sorry... never mind about the Rounders 3 blogger template guide... I see you already wrote one. hehe

Thanks!

October 12, 2008 8:38 PM  
Blogger RW said...

Hey, just a quick thanks to everyone for leaving all these great comments; I really, really appreciate them. I will definitely invest the time in writing guides for all the blogger templates so everyone can share in 3 column nirvanna. Pura Vida!

October 12, 2008 9:21 PM  
Blogger Rud-gr said...

I'm superhappy with your explanation, makes everything so easy and it all is working like a charm. Many, many thanks!

Do have two questions though:

- For some reason the Blogtitle and subtitle do not align in the center. Is that easy to fix?
- Is it possible to remove the date from the posts?

Don't know if you have the time to answer, otherwise I'll be having a lot of fun fooling around to see if I can fix it myself.

Rutger
Rotterdam, Netherlands

October 13, 2008 3:33 PM  
Blogger Fran Sky said...

Holy crap it works!!!! Thanks so much!!!
~F

October 13, 2008 9:47 PM  
Blogger Preppy 101 said...

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October 14, 2008 10:39 AM  
Blogger Testblog said...

Thanks for this! The instructions were so clear and easy to understand.

October 14, 2008 2:28 PM  
Blogger Tee said...

Thank you so much for this wonderful blog.
I wasnt actually using any of the templates you have featured - I was using the Scribe Template - but thanks to your clear instructions I was able to to fiddle with the Scribe coding and get it to look how I wanted.

Although I had trouble with the padding between the two sidebars and the main bit, but I just fiddling and eventually realised the padding on wrap3 was set to 50px hence it was throwing all my calculations out for margins, I changed the padding to 10px and voila!! it worked.

Thank you again
My blogs if you would like to visit
http://teesscraps.blogspot.com
http://teestester.blogspot.com (ignor the garish colors on this one hehe!)

Tee x

October 17, 2008 5:20 AM  
Blogger I'm Lisa said...

Hi I wonder if could tell me what did I do wrong, my post date and post header got switch somehow?
thanks in advance :)

October 22, 2008 8:16 PM  
Blogger Star Child said...

does this work for pyzam templates? i have found one i love and wanted to make it a 3 column blog. can i do that and if so could you please help me out? and thank you for your time!

Starchild

www.starchild9.blogspot.com

October 23, 2008 12:53 AM  
Blogger iQa♥♥ said...

thank you!

October 23, 2008 1:29 AM  
Blogger J e f f r e y G e o f f r e y said...

hmm, mine didn't work. got this:

We were unable to preview your template

Please correct the error below, and submit your template again.

Invalid variable declaration in page skin: Variable is used but not defined. Input: startSide

help? www.jeffreygeoffrey.blogspot.com

October 25, 2008 9:22 AM  
Blogger RW said...

jeffreygeoffrey: Exactitude is required. Looks like you are missing the $ before startSide. Check the original instructions.

October 27, 2008 10:30 PM  
Blogger Anali said...

Thank you!!!!! You're awesome!!

November 1, 2008 5:35 PM  
Blogger Stephanie D. said...

Well, I got the three columns and found a background that looks great, but can't seem to center my blog title space--it lists to portside.

www.scrapsbystephanie.blogspot.com

Can you help me?

Oh, and thanks so much for the tutorials. I am not html literate, (barely computer literate) and it's all Greek or something to me!

November 1, 2008 9:44 PM  
Blogger Sherrie said...

Just wanted to add my thank you to this. It worked great the instructions were simple enough even for me. I had been wanting three columns. Thanks again.

November 2, 2008 1:43 AM  
Blogger Ice Pony Goddess said...

Totally NEW to blogging. I want a 3 column layout and have no idea how change my current layout to a 3 column.

PLEASE HELP!


http://iceponytrekking.blogspot.com/

THANKS!!

November 7, 2008 6:33 PM  
Blogger Ice Pony Goddess said...

YOU ROCK!!!!!! I think I figured it out. At first I kept getting Wigget errors, so I deleted my RSS links and now...by George...I think I've got it.

Please check my blog out and let me know what ya think.

http://iceponytrekking.blogspot.com/

THANKS!
Raven
WI. USA.

November 7, 2008 7:58 PM  
Blogger ak_sapphire said...

got the three columns...but my "left column" is in the middle...how can i fix that?

November 7, 2008 11:51 PM  
Blogger RW said...

ak saphire, this is how your left sidebar wrapper looks now:

#left-sidebar-wrapper {
width: 250px;
float: right;

change the float from "right" to "left". That should do it. If only the whole preggers thing were so easy!

Ice pony - Great! I'm glad you got it and your blog is pretty cool.

November 8, 2008 6:42 AM  
Blogger Cris Cunningham said...

Hi,
Thanks you so much your step by step. The problem I'm having is with my banner. I have attempted to upload a few images. I go to Layout, click on "edit" on the banner/header, upoad my pic...it saves it in the pop out window but it doesn't show up on the blog! That is weird, isn't it? I don't know what's happening, and am getting very frustrated. Can you help?

November 8, 2008 2:56 PM  
Blogger Cris Cunningham said...

oh by the way, my blog is located here:

http://www.enchantedheartsstudio.blogspot.com

Thanks again!

November 8, 2008 2:56 PM  
Blogger AmericanAngle said...

Thanks for taking the time to do this..so far you have the clearest instructions. I am following them and get lost at step 2.

You indicate to increase the max width at the bottom of the same Header section, change the max-width from 660 to 940:

#description {
margin:0 5px 5px;
padding:0 20px 20px;
border:1px solid #eee;
border-width:0 1px 1px;
max-width:660px;<-------change to 940
font:78%/1.4em "Trebuchet MS",Trebuchet,Arial,Verdana,Sans-serif;
text-transform:uppercase;
letter-spacing:.2em;
color:#999;
}
The closest code I have to the above is this:

#header .description {
margin:0 5px 5px;
padding:0 20px 15px;
max-width:700px;
text-transform:uppercase;
letter-spacing:.2em;
line-height: 1.4em;
font: $descriptionfont;
color: $descriptioncolor;
}

So I changed my max width from 700 to 940 and get the error code:

We were unable to save your template
Please correct the error below, and submit your template again.
More than one widget was found with id: HTML6. Widget IDs should be unique.

I am oficialy stumped..do I change all the widget html numbers? I have 1 through 6 with duplicate numbers

I would appreciate the help

November 10, 2008 10:10 PM  
Blogger RW said...

Not sure what's going on with your widgets, but with respect to max width, you can also just leave it set at 700. The only reason to change it is if you have header images and you want them centered. You can also just delete the whole line, that will work too. Good luck!

November 11, 2008 8:29 AM  
Blogger Nicole Feliciano said...

You rock! This took me about 15 minutes. Love the results...


http://momtrends.blogspot.com/

November 11, 2008 6:10 PM  
Blogger Karen said...

God bless you! I have been trying to do this but every other site has been soooooo confusing. I was just about to give up when I found your site. Thank you!

November 15, 2008 2:33 PM  
Blogger AmericanAngle said...

I had to delete my duplicate elements..then I was able to save the template..your code worked just as you described.

Great work,RW..I haven't come across an easier to understand list of instructions for 3 column blog templates. Thanks again!

Now I'm off to try and put my widgets back...

November 16, 2008 7:03 PM  
Blogger Alissa said...

Thank you!! Thank you for making me feel so clever. This worked great, and I didn't have to delete what I already had in my widgets. Wonderful.

November 20, 2008 4:40 PM  
Blogger Cris Cunningham said...

Just wanted to post an update. Yours is the only 3-column template tutorial that has worked flawlessly for me. I've now used it with three blogs successfully. THANK YOU so much for your effort. This is fantastic!

November 27, 2008 8:20 PM  
Blogger RW said...

This post has been removed by the author.

November 29, 2008 12:28 AM  
Blogger SUZAIRHE SUMARI said...

Hi RW,

i'm new to Blogspot.
I've tried to change the layout but once it didn't work out, i delete the idea of changing it.

Now i wanna have a 3 column layout. Tried but still to no avail. Could u please kindly help me?

My blog - http://suzairhesumari.blogspot.com

Could u check it out and instruct me what's the next step i should take. Please help.

ThankQ

November 29, 2008 4:08 AM  
Blogger Fui Kun said...

thx 4 ur code
thx....

November 30, 2008 4:43 PM  
Blogger RW said...

suzair - I'm afraid i don't yet have a tutorial for the template you're using.

November 30, 2008 5:40 PM  
Blogger SUZAIRHE SUMARI said...

Hi RW,

Its ok. Btw, i managed to have it change in 3 columns. Really scratched my head for 2 days to transform my 2 columns to 3 columns. Certain widget i have to delete and place it back BUT its fruitful - at last.

U might wanna take a look at my new 3 column layout.

Check it out - http://suzairhesumari.blogspot.com

ThankQ so much for replying.



Suzairhe Sumari.

December 1, 2008 2:20 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth said...

THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 1, 2008 2:50 PM  
Blogger Morgan said...

ugg..I cant figure it out. I did twice and both times it says

We were unable to preview your template
Please correct the error below, and submit your template again.
More than one widget was found with id: Subscribe1. Widget IDs should be unique.

whats up?

December 4, 2008 2:52 PM  
Blogger RW said...

Simple, you've already got an RSS feed widget on your blog named "subscribe1". Just paste this code, which omits the widget, above the main wrapper instead:

<div id='left-sidebar-wrapper'>
<b:section class='sidebar' id='left-sidebar' preferred='yes'>
</b:section>
</div>

You may have to go into the "Layout" tab and add a widget to the new column before you can see it, but that should do it for you. Good luck!

December 4, 2008 4:08 PM  
Blogger AmericanAngle said...

RW, I had the same problem as Morgan when I first tried the new template. For some reason the new upload eliminated some of my widgets and duplicated some page elements.

I just had to go back and delete those offending page elements and it worked perfectly.

I then added new page elements to my blog and everything fell into place.

Your other post regarding adjusting the columns so everything aligns properly was awesome!

December 5, 2008 10:02 AM  
Blogger Cybele's patch said...

Thank you. It was very easy to do with your help. I tried one before but that made my pc very slow. This works just fine!

December 7, 2008 4:02 AM  
Blogger Derosky said...

thanks man, very easy tutorial, now but i wanted 2 sidebars on the right side, so i changed one word, thanks a lot.

December 7, 2008 3:16 PM  
Blogger RW said...

Thanks everyone, your comments are really great.

Angle & Morgan - On your suggestion I replaced the old RSS feed widget in the new column with a new, more obscure google gadget called the Geo IP Tool. This should eliminate the duplicate page element issues you both had. It will also eliminate this issue for future readers.

Cheers!

December 8, 2008 9:37 AM  
Blogger Sharon said...

I am absolutely thrilled! I actually did it! Can't thank you enough for posting the instructions. Took me awhile to get up the nerve to do it, but glad I did! My blog has taken on a whole new look and I think it is much better. Many, many thanks!

December 10, 2008 9:07 AM  
Blogger Barbara Benham said...

Hello and many thanks for these great instructions!

I’ve tried twice and gotten this message when I’ve attempted to preview the changes:

Invalid variable declaration in page skin: Variable is used but not defined. Input: startSide


Here’s my blog: www.travelsweeps.blogspot.com.

One thing I noticed is that my “content wrapper” is missing some coding in the final step. I cut and paste but that didn’t do the trick. (I'm having trouble with HTML examples in this post, or I'd show you the specific section.)

Thanks, thanks, thanks!

Any suggestions?

December 14, 2008 9:33 AM  
Blogger RW said...

Barbara, sorry about your tooth! You are using the Template version of Minima, not Layout. So first, click on the link in the beginning of this post for the instructions on the "Template" version of Minima, that will take you to the instructions you need.

But that is not the end of your travails. You and I are using the exact same version of Minima, but your code is different, I have no idea why. It may be all the mods and widgets in your code (there are so many that your page actually loaded kind of slowly on my browser). Anyway, those instructions for the Template version should generally work for you except for one thing: the "div ids" for your content are a little different than in that tutorial - I have no idea why since we are on the exact same version of Minima - but they are.

So....in the last step where you past in the "left-siderbar id", it'll be different for you. I THINK you'll need to post that in between the div id='content-wrapper' and div id='main-wrapper' on your blog. I can't be sure without actually testing it though. You'll need to do a control F to find the right divs, otherwise you'll go cross-eyed like I did. Those divs are right next to each other in your blog, so when you find them you'll know.

Anyway, paste the sidebar id in between those two divs and then see how you go. I think that should do it for you. And if you can get me into a nice hotel in Hawaii someday, do let me know!

Good luck with your tooth, and I hope these instructions get you into three column land very soon.

Good luck! RW

December 15, 2008 10:34 AM  
Blogger Barbara Benham said...

Thank you so much RW for your super detailed answered. I managed to make a new three-column Minima (www.travelsweeps09.blogspot.com) but am not sure if I'm going to move the blog there. However I will definitely put your wonderful directions to use.

I did have two more questions:

1.) In the above blog -- www.travelsweeps09.blogspot.com -- how would I make the middle column a little narrower?
2.) Is there anyway to center photos you import in the sidebars? It drives me nuts that Blogger doesn't let you center images in the sidebars!

December 15, 2008 6:51 PM  
Blogger Derosky said...

i have question: how to put widgets in sidebar near each other? reply me please if you know

December 16, 2008 1:35 PM  
Blogger Passionate Eater said...

I did it!! Praise you Three Column Blogger! Thank you so much for your step-by-step instructions (which were very easy to understand, and clearly, took a lot of effort). You dedicated precious time to do these write-ups for the public, and even respond to individual problems. Thank you for your generosity and kindness. Have a wonderful holiday season!

December 17, 2008 12:33 AM  
Blogger RW said...

Passionate Eater, thanks. You have a great-looking and VERY informative blog.

Derosky, putting widgets next to each other in one sidebar is beyond the scope of this blog at the moment. That is pretty heavy html work, as in heavy $$.

Barbara, your questions were:

1.) how would I make the middle column a little narrower?
2.) Is there anyway to center photos you import in the sidebars? It drives me nuts that Blogger doesn't let you center images in the sidebars!

1 - reduce the width of your "main" column
2 - use html center tags. Blogger will not let me post the tags here, just google it and you will find them.

Everyone else, I ask only for two things, one or the other (or preferably both). The first is to link to these posts. But nobody does that - I guess because it takes too much time and effort.

The other is to donate, but nobody does that either - I guess because that takes money, period.

I really like helping everyone and I absolutely love all these great comments, but keep in mind responding to questions takes time and effort (never mind writing it all in the first place), and I also self-host this .com site. I choose to do this, but it's disheartening and discouraging to see that so few people even bother to post a link (blogging 101),... never mind make a contribution.

I really don't want to "out" anybody, but you know who you are!

At the very, very least, how about some link love. It costs nothing.

Good grief!

December 18, 2008 11:33 PM  
Blogger leathergloves said...

It works!

You are super helpful.

For that, you deserve a backlink from my blogs

http://leatherleatherleather.blogspot.com/
http://firesfiresfires.blogspot.com/

December 19, 2008 12:54 AM  
Blogger BioGal said...

You are a miracle worker! I spent DAYS searching for help with this! Lots of useless youtube demos... However, your instructions were patient and considered; I will definitely be adding your link - I assume a post would be appropriate or is there some technical way of doing this?

December 19, 2008 3:26 PM  
Blogger RW said...

Thanks you two (leather: can I have another??!), yes, a simple reference in a post is fine. I went off the deep end with that comment and am considering deleting it. I do enjoy working on this blog, and I wouldn't do so if I didn't like it. But I wrote that comment after I checked on the blog of someone who was having difficulty, and I almost pushed the delete button on the entire site.

They had their problem all fixed, and they were spreading some internet "blog love" chain mail thing all over their front page in celebration. It was full of links to everyone who had helped them, except for one site in particular, and they had even left a comment here saying how grateful they were for the instructions!

December 19, 2008 6:41 PM  
Blogger BioGal said...

Mr RW,if you have a wee icon or widget or gadget or banner or something, I would be very glad to pop it in my lovely new left-hand-side column!

December 20, 2008 1:01 AM  
Blogger Hanneke said...

It didn't work.... it says Variable is used but not defined. Input: startSide


Can you help me? Thanks a lot!!

December 20, 2008 2:52 PM  
Blogger Clare said...

Just brilliant - easy, effective, takes a couple of minutes. Thank you!

December 21, 2008 7:40 AM  
Blogger leathergloves said...

Just a suggestion, you want to take a sample screenshot thumbnail of the output?

Not sure you like to combine the margins instructions together? It is almost a must. Well, the link is fine... perhaps used by multiple layouts or templates?

I have spread the word to http://leatherbeauty.blogspot.com. I hope he will adopt it and put a backlink there.

December 21, 2008 6:45 PM  
Blogger Passionate Eater said...

Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate all of your help, and put a backlink to your site on my blog. Happy holidays!

December 22, 2008 3:20 PM  
Blogger Passionate Eater said...

And RW, I am not sure how you feel about this, but you might want to put some ads up on here, to help you pay for your domain costs. It helps with my site.

December 22, 2008 3:21 PM  
Anonymous tot said...

Recommend This site!!!
Its Really Help newbie!!

December 25, 2008 2:20 PM  
Blogger steph said...

you are awesome for doing this. i was afraid to try on my own. really cool. thanks a bunch!

December 26, 2008 10:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you FRIGGIN" rock!!!!! I have been working at this for hours my 3rd time around---I haven't touched it in months b/c I was SO frustrated with the only instructions i had AND it never worked only b/c the uy did not give specific location instructions like you did! You are a ROCKSTAR!

THANK YOU , THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!!

December 29, 2008 11:32 PM  
Blogger glutenfreegirl said...

YOU ROCK! This is the only tutorial that WORKED!!! :)
THANK YOU!
www.mamaslittlemonkeys.com
http://etsypayitforward.blogspot.com
http://blog.mamaslittlemonkeys.com

January 4, 2009 7:11 AM  
Blogger leathergloves said...

Do you have a tutorial on the foxmenu in the example here
http://www.alexramon.com/

The top menu bar with the
HOME GALLERY ... ABOUT

No matter what I did, it become an unordered list (bulleted)

I copied the *.css files and link it to the my blog site, still does not work! So frustrating...

I copied the whole html page source, obviously screw up my blog alignment.

Another tutorial please?

Happy New Year!

January 7, 2009 2:35 AM  
Blogger Patti said...

I followed these instructions today and they worked perfectly! I like the layout of my blog so much better now! I've given you credit on the post about the change and linked back to this blog. Thanks ever so much! Now I just have to print the instructions for widening the margins.

January 7, 2009 5:03 PM  
Blogger c m kynaston said...

thank you! I followed the instructions, but never did find the #description code, and it all worked anyway. Thank you thank you!!!

January 7, 2009 7:29 PM  
Blogger Bobaji said...

Thanks! Now if I only knew how to justify the page on the left when the window is maximized I'd be ecstatic. I notice that your page is always left-aligned in the window even if the window is maximized in 1280sX768 resolution...all the other people's pages here in the comments are too. This leads me to believe it's not a CSS thing. Any tips?

BTW I was using your instructions on a 1280 res monitor and it took a while to figure out why that extra space was there. On wide screens is it looks like an extra column or extra white space that extends out beyond the left edge of the header bar. Maybe that'd be worth mentioning. Dunno, your call.

VanF

Thx

January 9, 2009 7:01 AM  
Blogger The Obstinant Family said...

Gosh, I can't thank you enough for your help on making another column. You are so AwEsOmE to do this for others.

Thanks so much!

Misti

January 9, 2009 10:41 AM  
Blogger andi said...

gosh. what would i do without you?thanks a bunch! more power!

January 9, 2009 8:44 PM  
Blogger Lacey Bean said...

GREAT directions. Thanks!

January 11, 2009 2:20 PM  
Anonymous Jean said...

Thanks for the instructions. I thought they were very easy to follow. I did get an error message when I went to preview:
Invalid variable declaration in page skin: Variable is used but not defined. Input: startSide

Apparently I must have did something wrong?? I am unable to preview.
Thank you,
Jean

January 12, 2009 5:23 AM  
Blogger Ray Gunn said...

This tutorial is spectacular. Thank you so much for putting it together!

One question, though. I use the "lefty" version of Minima and when I follow your instructions, the new column appears to the left of my existing column, pushing my main column all the way to the right.

What should I change to make the new column appear on the right of my main column?

It would totally make my day if I knew how to do that.

Thanks!

January 12, 2009 8:16 AM  
Blogger Jean Vitrano said...

Great directions. I think I was able to do it, but if you look at my blog you will see that it is a bit off. It seems I need to adjust the middle column. Any suggestions? Totally appreciated.
Jean
www.readingthetealeaf.com

January 13, 2009 8:10 AM  
Blogger leathergloves said...

Check out your source:

/* Outer-Wrapper
----------------------------------------------- */
#outer-wrapper {
width: 940px;
margin:0 auto;
padding:10px;
text-align:left;
font: normal normal 100% Georgia, Serif;
}
#left-sidebar-wrapper {
width: 220px;
float: left;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}
#main1-wrapper {
width: 500px;
float: left;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}
#sidebar2-wrapper {
width: 150px;
float: left;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}
#main2-wrapper {
width: 300px;
float: right;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}
#sidebar1-wrapper {
width: 160px;
float: right;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

My source at http://leatherleatherleather.blogspot.com/ :
/* Outer-Wrapper
----------------------------------------------- */
#outer-wrapper {
width: 940px;
margin:0 auto;
padding:10px;
text-align:left;
font: normal normal 100% 'Trebuchet MS',Trebuchet,Verdana,Sans-serif;
}
#left-sidebar-wrapper {
width: 185px;
margin-right: 10px;
margin-left: 5px;
float: left;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}
#main-wrapper {
width: 500px;
margin-right: 15px;
margin-left: 15px;
float: left;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}
#sidebar-wrapper {
width: 185px;
margin-right: 5px;
margin-left: 10px;
float: right;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

You already have 2 main wrappers and 2 sidebar wrappers before adding the left-sidebar wrapper!

January 14, 2009 7:09 PM  
Blogger KayzKreationz said...

Thanks, I've been afraid to try this. I'm waiting to see if it works. It's taking a while to load my blog and the color background. But if it works, I love it.
http://KayzKreationz.blogspot.com
http://KayzKreationz.etsy.com

January 18, 2009 5:17 PM  
Blogger KayzKreationz said...

Okay, it's not right. I'll have to figure out how to make everything a little wider. Thanks.

January 18, 2009 5:18 PM  
Blogger RW said...

Sorry for the delay in answering questions; another project is consuming a lot of my time and there are a lot of questions here. In reverse order, I will do my best to answer the comments:

Kayzcreations: This is a good one to start with. Generally, if you pay attention to detail, read the instructions carefully and go slowly and do it EXACTLY as shown, you will have three columns in no time. Kay, how you wound up with two sidebar wrappers and two main wrappers is a mystery to me. Nowhere in the tutorial are those "div ids" in your source code even mentioned. It looks like you've gone back to regular two column Minima, so it's difficult to diagnose the part that's "not right" Try again, go slowly, and you will definitely get it!

Jean Vitrano - nice looking blog. Your main column looks great. I'm assuming all you needed to do was adjust your margins.

Ray Gunn - I haven't done a tutorial on "Minima Lefty" yet. All the templates are a bit idiosyncratic, so congrats if you got that far using the regular Minima tutorial. As far as suggestions on how to fix it, check out my reply to Girardo Marti in the Three Column Minima Lefty Stretch comment section.

Jean - again, you need to be VERY careful and pay attention to the instructions. There is no such thing as "startSide" in html. The command is "$startSide". Change "startSide" in your code to "$startSide" and you'll have it nailed! This one is very easy to miss though, so thanks for posting the question, hopefully it will help others with that mistake (Hanneke had the same problem).

Bobaji/VanF - that's interesting; I don't know why the alignment is set the way it is, and frankly I've never noticed it. Unfortunately, I don't know what the answer is, but I do appreciate your bringing it to my attention. I will try to figure it out.

Leather Gloves - I don't have a tutorial on the fox menu. I also don't know what's causing your problem with the lists, I would just have to fiddle and fiddle. I am really not a coder, just a curious self-taught imposter like everyone else. Someday I'll get the screenshots up that you suggested, but time is always scarce. Also, that post on adjusting margins is related to a couple of other tutorials, so it was easier to make it stand-alone and link to it. Thank you very much for your kind suggestions and your support. I have added you to my blogroll, such as it is!

Good luck to everyone!

January 19, 2009 10:15 AM  
Blogger Nelly said...

I have a problem. I added the three columns but now the "add and arrange page elements" part is completely screwed up. Is there any way to fix it because I had to remove the footer to make it work. Also I have lost all of my widgets. How I can I safe them so I won't lose them the next time?

Thank you in advance :)

January 19, 2009 4:09 PM  
Blogger RW said...

Nellie, it's important to back up your template. Unfortunately, you'll have to reload all of your widgets. Sorry.

As for you page layout problem, it's possible that it's your wireframe editor. Check out the instructions at the bottom of the Rounders 3 tutorial, but substitute "485px" with "500px". That MAY do it. Apologies if that doesn't work though; you may have to reload everything.

January 19, 2009 5:25 PM  
Blogger Nelly said...

I did backup everything. When I loaded back up only the title of the widgets were there but not the widgets itself.

As of right now I get along without footer but I will check on the 485 instead of 500.

Thanks :)

January 19, 2009 6:23 PM  
Blogger The Smith Family said...

Woah! Love this... totally helped me! Thanks
Shelley

January 22, 2009 8:20 PM  
Blogger john adcock said...

I keep getting the message "There was an error in this gadget."
Thanks!

January 26, 2009 11:19 AM  
Blogger Kalavati said...

Thank you so much yours was the very easiest and clearest to follow!

January 26, 2009 6:23 PM  
Blogger ginger at enchanting cottage said...

If I had a, That was easy button I would be pushing right about now.
Thank-you,
Ginger

January 27, 2009 11:15 AM  
Blogger Jess Constable said...

GREAT! Thank you SOOO MUCH!

I was considering a different blog program until I found this tutorial.

Just awesome.

-Jess!

January 28, 2009 9:12 AM  
Blogger carboniferous said...

Awesome. thank you!

January 29, 2009 11:59 AM  
Blogger Judi said...

I am so amazed how how much nicer my blog is after using your wonderful instructions. Thanks so much for your generosity in sharing your knowledge!

January 29, 2009 1:22 PM  
Blogger . said...

Thank you, thank you and thank you.
I could be here all they thank you that was not enough.
Thank you very much.

Alfazema

PS.: I'll put a link back to you.

January 30, 2009 8:16 AM  
Blogger Jess :) said...

Hey!! This worked so well...it also helped to read through some of the comments b/c they helped solve some of minor issues. Right now, though, I keep getting this message in my left sidebar when I go to Preview: "There was an error in this gadget." Please let me know what I can do to fix this or have I screwed up my whole blog?!? Please help when you have a chance!! Thanks so much!

January 31, 2009 9:14 PM  
Blogger Thomas Lauterjung said...

Thank you so much, great tutorial and easy to follow :D

February 2, 2009 9:02 AM  
Blogger leathergloves said...

Btw, just to let you know that I got the foxmenu to work with the charcoal 3-column blogger template in my http://blogger-templates123.blogspot.com/

No CSS file needed.

February 5, 2009 1:21 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

It worked!! It actually worked!! I've been trying for months with other codes from other sites and just happened to find yours today & it actually works!! WooHoo!! lol

February 6, 2009 1:35 PM  
Blogger Hannah Jane said...

Thanks!!!!!

February 6, 2009 2:55 PM  
Blogger BusyBeadLady said...

Please help I belive I did all the right things but when I preview it tells me that there is an error in the widget.

My blog is http://busybeadlady.blogspot.com/

February 7, 2009 8:05 AM  
Blogger john adcock said...

If you get the message "There was an error in this gadget" upload the "subscribe" gadget to your right hand column. Look into the html, copy the code for the gadget, then paste it into where the third column gadget given should go. Voila! 3 columns! Preview, save, and delete the "subscribe" widget from right hand column while leaving "subscribe" gadget in left hand column.

February 9, 2009 10:54 AM  
Blogger The Arthurs said...

Here is how mine looks but I keep getting an error message that says invalid variable declaration in page skin: variable is used but not defined. Input:startSide.

Do you have any idea what is wrong with it? The rest of it works...it is just this section that is causing me trouble!

Thanks so much!!

#outer-wrapper {
width: 660px;
margin:0 auto;
padding:10px;
text-align:left;
font: $bodyfont;
}

#left-sidebar-wrapper {
width: 220px;
float: $startSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

#main-wrapper {
width: 410px;
float: left;
padding: 5px;
border:1px solid $bordercolor;
background-color:#ffffff;
filter:alpha(opacity=80); -moz-opacity:0.80; opacity:0.80; -khtml-opacity:0.80;

word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

#sidebar-wrapper {
width: 220px;
float: right;
padding: 5px;
border:1px solid $bordercolor;
background-color:#ffffff;
filter:alpha(opacity=80); -moz-opacity:0.80; opacity:0.80; -khtml-opacity:0.80;

word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

February 11, 2009 8:51 AM  
Blogger Leah said...

This is incredibly helpful. Thank you so much!!

February 11, 2009 3:48 PM  
Blogger RW said...

BusyBeadlady and John Adcock, I changed the widget (again) to an innocent Blogger button, that should work for everybody, but everybody is a lot of people so we'll see.

The Arthurs: check the tutorial, there is no such thing as "startSide", it is "$startSide". You must be EXACT.

Cheers, RW

February 11, 2009 9:28 PM  
Blogger Robin @ My Blessed Nest said...

Thank you so much for your clear and concise instructions! I heard about you from Sarah of countrygirlsarah.blogspot.com.

Yours is the 4th site I have used to change to a 3 column minima blog...it would not save changes made using the other sites! The changes made using your site were saved without any problems and they look great!

Would you consider adding instructions about other customizations to blogs...I would definitely come back for those!

Bless you!

February 20, 2009 7:09 AM  
Blogger Jillian said...

This was a great tutorial. Thank you so much! I do have a little problem, though. When I am in the "Page Elements" tab of "Layout" (Edit Layout), the "add & arrange elements" is WAY over on the right hand side, and you have to scroll over to see it. Any ideas?

February 20, 2009 4:09 PM  
Blogger Jillian said...

Just kidding..I figured it out. Had the footer at "9400"px instead of "940"px. Thanks, again!!

February 20, 2009 4:12 PM  
Anonymous Raquel @ Sassy Saving Chica said...

Thanks a million! Your instructions are super easy to follow!

February 22, 2009 5:50 PM  
Blogger Robin @ My Blessed Nest said...

Hi, I'm back again! I am making progress, but the text in my three columns is too close to the edges, and I would also like a thin border around the columns. Could you give any pointers? Any help will be very appreciated!

February 23, 2009 1:03 PM  
Blogger Absolutely Not Martha said...

I haven't attempted this yet, though your instructions do seem simple enough. I'm really afraid to mess everything up! I did notice this difference though in my code from what you have:

#header .description {
margin:0 5px 5px;
padding:0 20px 15px;
max-width:700px;
text-transform:uppercase;
letter-spacing:.2em;
line-height: 1.4em;
font: $descriptionfont;
color: $descriptioncolor;
}

if I do screw it up, is there a way I can go back to original 2 column layout?

February 23, 2009 9:21 PM  
Blogger Jeff Inglis said...

This is really amazing. Thanks SO much!

February 24, 2009 7:49 PM  
Blogger Jamie said...

What a GREAT blog you have hear! So nice of you to be so helpful to all of us trying to learn. I just added a 3rd column using your tutorial and it worked like a charm. But the bottom of my header is not aligned now...hmmm! I've searched around the coding to see if I could change a dimension...but no luck! Do you know what I should be looking for? Thanks a bunch for your help!

Jamie :-)

February 24, 2009 11:13 PM  
Blogger ZOE said...

Well you already know you're amazing, because so many people have told you so (and with good cause), and I can't add to that, except to say thank you and send out a big cyber kiss on the face -- Worked like a charm, and super easy to get in and tweak (move columns, etc).

And I so hate to bother you, since you've made me look so brilliant, but do you have code somewhere on how to add color or images to columns in minima? I've nosed about and can't find a link.

Thanks for any help you can toss my way!

February 26, 2009 11:47 AM  
Blogger ZOE said...

Never mind ... I figured it out :)

Thanks again!

February 26, 2009 8:09 PM  
Blogger holly cupala said...

You rock! Your instructions are so easy to follow. Thank you so much!

March 3, 2009 4:48 PM  
Blogger Natalie said...

Thank you sooo much! I have been searching for this for so long.

March 4, 2009 6:44 AM  
Blogger macJasp said...

Superb, many thanks for the tip, now have it implemented on my blog, 2 columns just wasn't enough!

March 4, 2009 11:34 AM  
Blogger Jessica said...

That you so much! These instructions were SO easy! I appreciate it.

March 5, 2009 7:54 PM  
Blogger Jessica said...

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March 5, 2009 7:55 PM  
Blogger Gary Pine said...

Worked like a champ, thanks.

March 6, 2009 8:23 AM  
Blogger Laura said...

WONDERFUL, thank you so much. Worked perfectly and easy to follow. Laura

March 6, 2009 12:41 PM  
Blogger Thirfty Homeowner said...

didn't work. seemed to create a new column between my existing ones, and deleted my main header and a couple other screwy things.

March 7, 2009 12:45 PM  
Blogger Madellaine Santiago said...

Thank you for the simple tutorial, now I have a 3 columned blog! :)

I just have a bit of a problem, the header of the blog seems to have gotten too BIG, and I don't want it that big as it occupies too much space. Can you help me? Thank you so much!

my blog is: free-cracked-games.blogspot.com

March 10, 2009 2:35 AM  
Blogger leathergloves said...

Hi Madellaine Santiago

Two suggestions:
1. Use MS Photo Editor to scale it down proportionately and then upload (recommended)
2. Do it in the HTML code (not tested).

Before doing it, copy the whole HTML and save it in wordpad. Careful some the widgets that has the contents embedded will not be saved.

Go to Edit HTML->Expand Widget Templates.

Find the following code.

<img expr:alt="data:title" expr:height="data:height" expr:id="data:widget.instanceId + "_headerimg"" expr:src="data:sourceUrl" expr:width="data:width" style="display: block"/>

The height="data:height" and width="data:width" controls the size of the header image. Scale it down proportionally by replacing data:height with numbers, in order not to distort the image.

Recommended to scale down the image proportionately in MS Photo Editor and then upload.

March 10, 2009 8:44 PM  
Blogger dinky dot said...

Thank you soooo much!so simple hurrah!be try for ages to do this but could make no sense of it!thanks for the easy to understand instructions!

March 16, 2009 8:41 AM  
Blogger Amber said...

Thank you so much for these wonderful instructions! I had it done in five minutes!

Eyes of Amber

March 18, 2009 3:12 PM  
Blogger The Beaver Bunch said...

I redid everything and it was find. Then BOOM, my right sidebar now only appears below my footer.

Please help!

March 18, 2009 10:28 PM  
Blogger peenkfrik said...

Thank you. This helps a lot. 8-)

March 21, 2009 9:34 PM  
Blogger Will and Natalie Giddens said...

I can't get this to work for the life of me! I do everything as you say to do and this is the error message I receive:

Invalid variable declaration in page skin: Variable is used but not defined. Input: startSide

Here's what my Outer Wrapper looks like:
#outer-wrapper {
width: 940px;
margin:0 auto;
padding:10px;
text-align:$startSide;
font: $bodyfont;
}

#left-sidebar-wrapper {
width: 220px;
float: $startSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

#main-wrapper {
width: 500px;
float: $startSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

#sidebar-wrapper {
width: 220px;
float: $endSide;
word-wrap: break-word; /* fix for long text breaking sidebar float in IE */
overflow: hidden; /* fix for long non-text content breaking IE sidebar float */
}

So what am I doing wrong? Help, please!

March 23, 2009 5:21 PM  
Blogger Katie Paterson said...

Brilliant! just brilliant, I am just speechless and oh so happy!!!

March 24, 2009 11:37 AM  
Blogger Home By Virginia said...

RW I NEED YOUR HELP...!!!
Please contact me... :D

March 25, 2009 4:19 PM  
Blogger IMakeCuteStuff said...

OMG. It works! Thank you so much for taking the time to post such clear instructions! Your getting a permanent link on my new blogger blog (to be live soon)!

March 27, 2009 6:48 PM  
Anonymous Cre8tiveTeen said...

THANK YOU!!!!! this was REALLY simple. Thank you!! I'll post a link to this blog on my blog.

March 29, 2009 1:01 PM  
Blogger MissingLandan said...

I've been trying different codes all day! Nothing was working like I wanted & nothing was near as simple as this was! Thanks so much! I also found it useful to use your tutorial about adjusting the margins!

March 29, 2009 3:34 PM  
Blogger GrannyNKy said...

It worked, and it was so very easy!!! Thank you so very much!!!!

April 1, 2009 4:55 AM  
Blogger Rachelle said...

Excellent! Your tips worked perfectly. I will definitely link to your blog. Thanks a million.

April 1, 2009 7:27 AM  
Anonymous Col said...

Every 3 column blogger template mod assumes that you want a sidebar on the right and left of the main one.

What I want to 2 sidebars to the right of the main block in minima template. Is that easy to do?

April 6, 2009 8:28 AM  
Blogger Dominique Ho said...

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April 7, 2009 4:26 AM  
Blogger Cathy Smith said...

It works great except that any gadgets you add to the left sidebar are added to the top of the sidebar and you can't drag them to move them around which is really annoying.

Any chance you have a "fix" for this problem????

April 7, 2009 9:46 AM  
Blogger Hayley G said...

First off... WICKED tutorial, many thanks.
Now the problem. I had purchased a custom background to my blog that has me change the code under the body section
as follows:

background:$bgcolor; then adds in background=image:url(http:blah blah blah photobucket blah blah blah.jpg);background-position: center; background-repeat:no-repeat; background-attachment: fixed;

So i'm confused as to what code I changed in your tutorial that would make my image hosted background not work?

Can you help??

Thanks a million!

April 7, 2009 9:56 PM  
Anonymous tvbmad said...

If i'm not using minima, but instead using snapshot madder, what do I do to get three columns on my blog? Thanks.

April 8, 2009 7:09 AM  
Blogger Twilight-Forever said...

YOU'RE A GENIOUS! THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!! IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL!

April 8, 2009 1:58 PM  
Blogger MaRLeNeF said...

Thank you so much! Your instructions are the best. I was trying all afternoon to get this done, found your site and got it done so fast!

April 8, 2009 4:40 PM  
Blogger Crystal Rae said...

Thank you so much for creating this blog, it was extremely helpful. I do have one question I hope you can help with. I want a little more space from my left column and my posts. If you can help me figure that out, I would appreciate your time. :)

April 11, 2009 6:37 PM  
Blogger Something Fun said...

fantastic! thanks so much, three columns rock!

i have just one problem / question!

i have managed to get three columns (yey!) but the centre column seems to be quite wide, there is very little space between the centre column and the columns on either side, making reading a post a little harder. if you know what i mean! ll...can you help...please!?

April 13, 2009 1:14 PM  
Blogger Something Fun said...

ok, so ignore my last post! i saw a link on your page telling me exactly how to change margin width...that'll teach me for not looking first!

thankyou and a great blog you have!

s.

April 13, 2009 1:25 PM  
Anonymous tvbmad said...

nevermind about my other comment - I've changed my layout to minima.

but since I've changed it to have three columns (your instructions work a star!!) I can't get the post comment button to work...it shows up, but it won't let anyone post a comment. Any help? Thanks.

April 16, 2009 7:24 AM  
Blogger Nena2007 said...

THANK YOU!!!! I have tried several times to do this and failed. It finally worked! Thanks :)

April 17, 2009 7:32 AM  
Blogger Kara said...

You are a rockstar! THANK YOU. This was the most user-friendly, blogger retarded, 3-column instruction post I found.

April 22, 2009 10:12 AM  
Blogger Beth said...

You know how long it has taken me to get this? Forever, thanks so much for all the work. It was the easiest I have ever done.

April 23, 2009 8:24 PM  
Blogger Mandy said...

Amen! Thanks so much! It took me forever to find a tut for the "layout" version, not the "template" one! And my margins are snazzy too! You are a rock star!

April 30, 2009 3:11 PM  
Blogger Mz.Bria2U said...

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. when I go into page elements, my left sidebar is sitting atop of the 'blog posts' box!! sigh

May 4, 2009 10:59 AM  
Blogger Davis Family said...

Thank you so much! It was very easy and straight forward. I do have a question...I like to add pictures to my header and when I do the width of 940px is great but the picture (within the header) is quite fat. How can I adjust the height so it is narrower? Where do I do this and how? I hope this makes sense.

May 4, 2009 3:23 PM  
Blogger Michael B said...

Hey on my blog the left column is not seperated from my content in the middle, anyway you can fix this for me so there is some padding or margin? Thanks

http://bodybuildingdiscounts.blogspot.com

May 4, 2009 4:52 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Very easy and clear instructions - thanks so much!

May 7, 2009 6:09 AM  
Blogger Dee said...

Fantastic instructions even though I got my DD to do it for me. Is there a way to add a border around the main post and also to the two side bars? Thanks in anticipation.

May 10, 2009 6:24 PM  
Blogger Dee said...

I forgot to say that I added a link to you on my blog also. Thanks

May 11, 2009 5:55 PM  
Blogger Deb said...

Dude, you seriously ROCK!
I linked to you in a post (http://decodivadebi.blogspot.com/2009/05/woof.html) and added you to my sidebar resource links.

BTW, I had the problem with the $startSide error message too.....nearly made me pull my hair out. I checked every last dot and found nothing different from your insertion code. Finally, in desperation, I changed '$startSide' to 'left' and '$endside' to 'right' - and it saved. No more error message. Not sure why, but when it worked, I stopped messing with it!!!! ;0)

Keep up the good work... your'e gonna' be famous!

Deb

May 11, 2009 11:34 PM  
Blogger Caroline said...

I went though all your steps, and let me tell you, it was the easiest to follow and do! I have been trying to tweak my blog all night through other sites with how-to and yours was the best!

I do, however, have issues with centering the middle column. I want it to be centered so there is space between my left, middle, and right columns. How can I go about this? And can I change the #main-wrapper from $startSide?

Thanks!

May 12, 2009 9:26 AM  
Blogger Kelly @ Wisdom Begun said...

You rock! What an awesome tut. You have made this way easier than any other tuts I have seen out there.

May 12, 2009 12:03 PM  
Blogger Stacie said...

Thanks so much - this was extremely helpful!

May 16, 2009 3:57 PM  
Blogger Clare said...

Thanks so much on helping me convert my blog to a three column, I;ve always wondered how to do this! Love, Clare x

May 18, 2009 8:56 AM  
Blogger Karen MEG said...

Thanks SO much... I've been wanting to do this 4ever, and the other version didn't work. Now I just have to tweak the margins, but it looks so much more versatile now with the 3!!!

May 19, 2009 8:17 PM  
Blogger kate said...

omg. thanks so much. i'm 13 years old. and i have absolutely no idea how to do html. :) thanks! you rock!

heyyitskate.blogspot.com

May 19, 2009 11:21 PM  
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May 20, 2009 10:33 AM  
Blogger Martina Åkerman said...

Hello. I see that nobody has posted a comment for a very long time. I have a Minima layout, but my code looks different than what you have here, so I'm afraid to try your tips. :-(
Why would mine look different? Has it changed in the last few months since the last person left a comment? I'm confused...but still want 3 columns!

May 28, 2009 10:01 PM  
Blogger Puglette said...

yay!! your instructions worked like a charm! i now have a lovely 3 column layout, all nicely space and level. thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. i am off to read about adjusting margins. your site will definately be added to my bookmarks.
thank you!
hugs,
puglette
:o)

May 31, 2009 3:56 PM  
Blogger Martina Åkerman said...

Well I took the chance and tried it out and YES it worked! THANKS!! The only thing now is the margin to the left. I fixed the right one by making the middle column 5px shorter, but I can't adjust the left side. That's ok though.
Thanks again!

May 31, 2009 7:56 PM  
Blogger Smulan said...

Jag måstevara dum för jag får det inte till att fungera. Jag har testat flkera ggr o följer det till punkt o pricka men det funkar inte iaf.

June 1, 2009 6:46 AM  
Blogger Martina Åkerman said...

Hej Smulan!
Du det är lite knepigt det här med 3 spalter. Man MÅSTE ha alla tecken i koden EXAKT samma som det står i beskrivningen. Det tog mig ett par försök också innan det funkade.
Kan du något om HTML? Det hela går ut på att skapa en spalt till, och samtidigt förminska bredden på de två som redan finns. Jag ska gå in på din Blogg sida och kika lite och se om jag kan hjälpa dig.
Hej då tills vidare!
Martina

June 1, 2009 3:51 PM  
Blogger Sara_B said...

Many thanks! I have been trying to figure out how to do this for ages... you made it very easy!

June 2, 2009 7:36 AM  
Blogger Katrina said...

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!! You made a dreadful tasks a breeze!

June 2, 2009 2:35 PM  
Blogger ewd024 said...

You put an end to my long search. Thanks a lot!

June 4, 2009 4:39 PM  
Blogger RW said...

Hi Everyone - thanks again for all your comments. For anybody who has trouble with their margins, please read the post on adjusting margins, including the comments.

Yours in three columns, RW!

June 5, 2009 5:51 PM  
Blogger kari said...

I have successfully added the third column but have two problems. Can you help me?

1. when I go to the dashboard then layout the page elements page is way off... I have to scroll to the right for ages to find the elements I need.

2. I'm trying to do a custom background and header, how do I know what sizes to make these and how to position them? What size should I make the background and how do I get the header to land on the right place?

Thank you for this how to... it is brilliant!

June 12, 2009 6:15 PM  
Blogger Asiya said...

thank you so much! i've tried a couple other tutorials and couldn't get it to work...this one was right on point! thanks a million for such an easy, clear tutorial!

June 14, 2009 1:49 AM  
Blogger kari said...

I have successfully added the third column but have two problems. Can you help me?

1. when I go to the dashboard then layout the page elements page is way off... I have to scroll to the right for ages to find the elements I need.

2. I'm trying to do a custom background and header, how do I know what sizes to make these and how to position them? What size should I make the background and how do I get the header to land on the right place?

Thank you for this how to... it is brilliant!

BTW, I'm going to link to you both on my blog and one that I'm doing for a friend.

June 16, 2009 3:15 PM  
Blogger Nicole Chantel Tan said...

hi would you be able to do the tutorial for the Snapshot Madder ? please thanks, it would be much appreciated =)

June 17, 2009 4:21 AM  
Blogger Alana K said...

Thanks SO MUCH!!! Every other three column edit I tried didn't work at all but yours was perfect and very easy for a html-dummy like me to understand. Thanks again!

June 18, 2009 7:48 AM  
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